SAISC calls for entries for the AVENG Trident Steel Awards 2017

SAISC calls for entries for the AVENG Trident Steel Awards 2017

The Southern African Institute of Steel Construction (SAISC) has called for entries for the AVENG Trident Steel Awards 2017 and CADEX Systems SA Photo Competition.

SAISC CEO Paolo Trinchero says that after the high standard of the 2016 Awards there has been extraordinary expectation throughout the steel construction industry in relation to this year’s Awards.

AVENG Trident Steel is the main sponsor for the 2017 Steel Awards
The Awards will take place on the 13th of September 2017 in Gauteng, Cape Town and KwaZulu-Natal.

steel awards winners 2016-ZooM-73Project nominations for the awards are now open.
Any project team member involved in a construction project can nominate it, provided that a Southern African steel constructor played a significant role in the project.
Project categories are determined by entries received, but set categories for the 2017 Steel Awards include: ASTPM Tubular Category, Global Roofing Solutions Metal Cladding Category, Safintra Factory and Warehouse Category, MiTek Light Steel Frame Category and the SAFAL Innovation Category

The best photograph of an entered project also wins an award.

Nominations will close on the 31st of March 2017.

For a detailed guide on the project nomination process and fee, visit



Bafikile Bonke Simelane, President, Master Builders South Africa

Bafikile Bonke Simelane, President, Master Builders South Africa


The Festive Season is now a distant memory as citizens and businesses alike in South Africa brace themselves and hunker down for what promises to be yet another long and difficult year especially exacerbated by the low-growth macro-economic environment that virtually the whole world finds itself in right now.

Despite these challenges we continue to encourage our members to remain optimistic and vigilant in these trying times that call for resilience and agility. It is important that we all cut through the background noise and remain focused.

We trust that the President’s State of The Nation address and the subsequent Budget Speech by the Minister of Finance will provide the necessary tonic to encourage and speed up the pace of infrastructure investment in the sector to act as a catalyst and stimulate much-needed confidence and activity in our sector despite the negative sentiment and expectations of political instability and economic uncertainty predicted by some analysts and political commentators.

We are also disturbed by reports of threats of violence and intimidation reported by our KwaZulu-Natal members on their construction sites and we denounce this as a means of conflict resolution while remaining sensitive to the grievances of the aggrieved parties.

We call on all stakeholders as well as all other interested and affected parties to engage meaningfully and constructively to find an amicable solution to resolve differences in a manner that benefits the industry as a whole now and into the future.

Perhaps we need our own Construction Indaba, similar to the Mining Indaba, where all stakeholders can come together to create a new future for the industry much like the Codesa negotiations that led to the political transition into democracy in the early 1990s.

I would continue to argue that perhaps we also need a “Framework Agreement for a Sustainable Construction Industry” to take a leaf from the mining industry. If this finds resonance with you please do not hesitate to contact the Master Builders SA office in Midrand.

We welcome the gazetting of the Preferential Procurement Regulations by National Treasury which come into effect on 1 April 2017. We urge our members to thoroughly familiarise themselves with the new rules in public sector procurement.

It is our considered opinion that the gazetting of these regulations will go a long way towards contributing to the main-streaming of emerging contractors for the transformation of the sector most of whom have been ‘emerging’ since the advent of the term some twenty or so years ago. We also have reason to believe that the National Minimum Wage is about to be signed into law.

We also look forward with eager anticipation to the gazetting of the Construction Sector Charter Codes in the not-too-distant future as this will provide much-needed policy and regulatory certainty to the entire construction economy value-chain to drive real and meaningful transformation for the overall sustainability of the sector.

Of course one of the key ingredients to the realisation of this vision is consistent and predictable economic growth in a stable macro-economic and political environment where opportunities are created for businesses and citizens to thrive and prosper as they create jobs and contribute to social cohesion, nation-building and the creation of a new society future generations can be proud of. It’s up to all of us to make it happen.

BEPEC launches extended membership platform

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Master Builders South Africa welcomes the initiative by the Built Environment Professions Export Council (BEPEC) to extend its membership platform to take in the construction services sector. This is with the aim to establish a united South Africa Inc to lead expansion into the rest of Africa.

The council’s widened base opens all the BEPEC export promotions and export-enhancing offerings of the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) and Trade Investment Africa to companies working in the construction services sector and will allow the utilisation of numerous opportunities outside South Africa’s borders.

This recently expanded export council will be taking the joint approach to aid the industry access a continent with a $93-billion infrastructure market.

“It is essential to build up and raise our businesses so they are not barred from the long-standing development of Africa moving forward,” said BEPEC chairperson Kribbs Moodley at the launch of the new council in Pretoria.

With aspirations of capturing 1% of overall universal exports by value by 2030, it is increasingly vital for South Africa to organize joint trade and execute those what is embedded in South Africa’s economic strategy.

In line with this, it made “complete sense” to have the extended membership base, said BEPEC CEO Con Korsten, pointing out that it made for more effective securing and execution of projects as SA Inc and smoothed the way to the formation of consortia of joint disciplines for such projects.

The newly refurbished council, which will be re-branded and renamed, will now take in associations such as Master Builders South Africa, the Black Business Council in the Built Environment and the South African Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors, for which three new board positions will be formed within BEPEC.

The BEPEC move unlocked numerous benefits for the construction services sector, such as network opportunities, facilitating effortless access to trading and project opportunities, support while contracting in a foreign nation, a voice in government for the private sector and opportunities to take part in the numerous DTI missions to Africa.

Source: Construction Review Online

FEM’s legendary MD retires

Thelma Pugh, Managing Director of The Federated Employer's Mutual Assurance Company (FEM)

Mrs. Thelma Pugh Outgoing MD of FEM

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2017 sees a change in leadership at The Federated Employers Mutual Assurance Company (RF) (PTY) Ltd. Thelma Pugh, a legend in the construction industry and stalwart driver of innovations in Construction Health and Safety, will leave office on 31March 2017, after 48 years with the company and 15 years as Managing Director, making way for her replacement, Ndivhuwo Manyonga.

Since joining FEMA in 1969, Thelma Pugh has spent the better part of 48 years promoting health and safety in the construction industry. From her humble beginnings as a Retention Fund Clerk, she worked her way up the organisation, which saw her become the CFO and later moved into her current position as MD, after the retirement of the late Cliff Saville. Thelma’s personal motto is that “Nobody, in our industry, should be dying for a job”. She worked very closely with health and safety organisations, across the country in their effort to make the construction industry a safer place to work in. She has been nominated for The South African Health and Safety Wall of Fame award, which takes cognisance of her efforts. Thelma leaves office on 31st March 2017 and we wish her well in her retirement.

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Mrs. Ndivhuwo Manyonga Incoming MD – FEM

FEM welcomes Ndivhuwo Manyonga, who will take up the post of Managing Director from 01st April 2017. She previously headed up the employee benefits and human capital consulting division within Aon Hewitt South Africa. Before joining Aon, she was the managing director of an employee benefits consulting business. Ndivhuwo has experience as an independent actuarial consultant to the financial services industry. She has also worked as a consulting actuary and a pricing and product development expert within one of the multinational insurers in South Africa. She holds a Bachelor of Business Science Degree (Actuarial Science) and a Post Graduate Diploma (Actuarial Science) from the University of Cape-Town. She is an actuary, a Fellow of the Actuarial Society of South Africa, a committee member of Actuaries without Frontiers and a non-executive member of the Actuarial Women’s Committee. We wish her well in her new position.

Supplier synergy: PPC / Calgro – Fleurhof case study

PPC-FLEURHOF-1-IMG_5393Supplier synergy: PPC / Calgro – Fleurhof case study

South African Builder visits Fleurhof with Adrian Ford, contract manager for
main contractor Calgro M3 Holdings and Rajesh Harripersadh, key account manager for cement supplier PPC.

When two or more professional companies work together to achieve a common goal – in so doing deploying their combined range of skills, products and technology – the resulting synergy and high quality of outcome is indeed a sight to behold.


Rajesh Harripersadh, key account manager for cement supplier PPC and Adrian Ford, contract manager for main contractor Calgro M3 Holdings

Such is the case with the Fleurhof residential and mixed use development in the west of Johannesburg.

Fleurhof is a Gauteng Partnership Fund (GPF) affordable housing development project and is one of the largest housing projects of its kind in the country – an outstanding model of integrated development. When completed it will comprise 10 193 free standing and sectional title, low-and middle-income housing units, eight nursery and pre-schools, five schools, five religious sites, 38 community gardens and play areas, a shopping centre, five business centres and an industrial park.

The 440ha land area of Fleurhof Ext 2 comprises various types of residential units and forms of tenure that have specific economic target markets, namely: fully subsidized RDP/BNG housing; gap; social rental; open market rental; and affordable housing. Home offerings include both rental and home ownership options.

The total development cost for Fleurhof stands at R78 million of which R23 million is funded by the GPF and the remaining R55 million by other stakeholders, amongst whom is International Housing Solutions (IHS).

PPC-FLEURHOF-2-IMG_5370Construction began in 2011 and, with main contractor Calgro M3 Holdings at the helm, has moved apace since and is already more than half completed. Around 5 000 residents currently live at Fleurhof, many of whom have already made further improvements to their homes. The project is due for completion in 2018.

“Construction of a project of this magnitude can only be undertaken with the close cooperation of professional and reliable partners and suppliers for the duration,” said Adrian Ford, contract manager for main contractor Calgro M3 Holdings. “In PPC we have that essential synergy, developed over many years of working together. PPC understands our every need and anticipates our cement requirements perfectly – enabling us to meet the tight ongoing construction deadlines and get families into homes.”

PPC-FLEURHOF-2-IMG_5394On material supply, Rajesh Harripersadh, key account manager at PPC provides us with some insight to the enormous scale of this housing project: “We deliver over 20 000 bags of cement to Fleurhof per month,” said Harripersadh. “This consistent volume over six years is certainly significant, and requires considerable pre-planning, close cooperation and good logistics management.

“Our plant capacities and resources at PPC are well geared to supply at this level, and our product is of course renowned for its high quality and reliability.”

During our tour of the Fleurhof estate what struck us was the exceptional high standard of finish on all buildings – this is evident in the photos displayed here.

PPC-FLEURHOF-3-IMG_5395The turnkey construction service provided by Calgro M3 plays a key role in achieving this outcome, as all aspects of construction, including design and procurement, are managed in-house with their own resources, enabling full control of all elements.

The Calgro M3 project team is also currently investigating various potential green initiatives to assess the viability of certain energy saving technologies such as solar water heaters, heat pumps and improved insulation for the various types of housing units.

PPC-FLEURHOF-4-IMG_5399Residential recycling projects, food gardening and urban greening initiatives are also being looked at. Besides the green component, the added benefit of these measures will also reduce electricity demand by the development and make the township socially and visually more attractive. In addition, a new water reservoir is being constructed while Fleurhof will obtain electricity from the shared sub-station implemented for the nearby Pennyville project.


Housing in South Africa remains a challenge that municipalities, provincial and national government are working to address. While formal housing has grown by 50% since 1994 with 5.6 million formal homes already built, an additional 1.5 million housing opportunities need to be created by 2019 to meet government commitments. Over R250 billion will be made available for this during this period including affordable bonded housing investments by banks, rental accommodation developments by the private sector and agencies, and government subsidies and housing investments by big employers and mining companies.

Global private equity investor, International Housing Solutions (IHS), is set to pump more than R1.6 billion into funding the development of affordable homes in sub-Saharan Africa, following major inflows from both local and international investors into its second fund.

Rob Wesselo, Managing Partner of IHS, says the new tranche of investment has allowed it to again invite developers with whom the company will partner, to create the next generation single- and rental developments and student housing.

“The construction industry remains one of the biggest employers and this provides a double impact for our investments – job creation as well as the creation of homes for families who would not otherwise be able to get a start on the property ladder.”

Wesselo says that one of the fund’s flagship projects, which illustrates the good partnership IHS has forged with developers, was its stake in the Fleurhof development in the Western Johannesburg area.

Wesselo says the development has transformed the area and is a good example of how IHS’s partnership with developers goes beyond just providing homes to create thriving communities.

Giving back to the construction industry: Excellence in Mentorship

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Denzel Maduray

When Denzel Maduray advises learners about choosing a career path in project and construction management, he does not mince his words.

“Plans are important but planning is everything. This was from Eisenhower. My advice is if you are not passionate about communication, integrating teams and engaging stakeholders then stay out of project and construction management. PCM takes dedication, time and effort and it is sometimes a thankless job without instant gratification,” says this successful construction manager who is currently employed at Aurecon.
Maduray exudes passion for the Construction Management profession and has taken the bold and selfless step to becoming a professional construction mentor. With such wisdom, Denzel is bound to empower candidates and emerging construction managers and there is no doubt that he does this with gusto.
“I would like to be known as the ‘practical project manager’ that gave back to the profession. I believe in the law of aggregation, the more people I share my knowledge and experience with, ultimately will result in a win for the profession. As a country we have the propensity to overcome challenges through dialogue and team work which are the key ingredients of good project management. I would like to be remembered as someone that has played a small part in this work,” says Maduray.
His path too has by no means been an easy one.
“Given the maturity of the project management profession, there were very few opportunities for structured mentorship from real project management professionals. I chose to register as a candidate and then submit a professional registration application after two years. During this time, planning my experiential training was key to obtaining my professional credentials. The support from the South African Council for Project and Construction Management Professions (SACPCMP) was also beneficial in submitting the proper documentation for evaluation.
This was a great experience and it was excellent to be rewarded for undertaking project management in a professional capacity. The Project Management profession is under-rated in the South African context and the establishment of the SACPCMP has given project managers a platform to acquire a credential and to step out of the shadows from the engineering profession which has dominated the South African built environment,” he says.

The success of this individual is reflected in his ability and willingness to network and to share knowledge and lessons learnt. In the Construction Management profession, this is virtually obligatory.
“I started working on site as a site agent and gradually worked my way up to leading both construction and consulting projects. My special passion is leading and directing multi-disciplinary project teams and seeing the integrated effort paying off with a successful product/service/result. Most notably was the Gauteng Department of Education, 16 Schools project and I was the PMO manager as well as the regional project manager for the East Rand,” says an enthusiastic Maduray.
Where did the dream start? What were the driving forces? Maduray remembers fondly his teacher of English at Westcliff Secondary School in Chatsworth, Mr. K Pillay. In 1993, South Africa was poised on a new order and insecurities defined his matric year. However, Mr. Pillay diffused these fears by “opening up” their minds and reminding them about struggle stalwarts such as Nelson Mandela, Ahmed Kathrada and Pravin Gordhan. This gave the young man and his friends tools to deal with this potentially threatening situation.
Then there was his father who had a solid work ethic. Having worked for the Durban Metro for 41 years, his dad hardly absented himself from work and Maduray inherited this from his dad thankfully. “My dad is my inspiration and the pride he had after I graduated from school with honours gave me the will to give my career the very best efforts.
My role models and mentors are people I work with every day. I draw inspiration from their experience, attitude, aptitude and work ethic,” reflects Maduray.

Maduray describes himself as a family man who enjoys spending time with his wife and mentee, Ramona, and their children Colby and Robyn.

Famous Director Steven Speilberg said, “The delicate balance of mentoring someone is not creating them in your own image, but giving them the opportunity to create themselves.”
It is clear that Denzel Maduray epitomises the works of this great man when he assimilates mentoring as part of his work and duty to “give back” to the profession and to society as a whole.

Sika cures ailing Durban apartment block

SIKA-Bencorrum Towers-1186Sika cures ailing Durban apartment block

February 2016 marked the start of an estimated fifteen-month restoration project on one of the largest apartment blocks in the Southern Hemisphere. The site was the T-shaped Bencorrum Towers in Durban’s beach-front precinct, comprising 334 units and housing over a thousand people. Built in the early 1930s, the once well maintained Bencorrum Towers, one being sixteen storeys high and the other twenty-three storeys high, had deteriorated to a state of total disrepair. Sika’s technical sales consultant, Mark Duckham, is advising on-site.

With the scope of works, which includes moderate to severe concrete repair, refurbishment and protection; Curasure KZN, a building maintenance consulting company, specified products from Sika’s renowned MonoTop range of ready-to-use mortars. The Ikusasa Group undertook quantity surveying for the project while the application contract was awarded to Coating Worx KZN.

Sika MonoTop-610, a cementitious, polymer-modified, one-component bonding slurry and primer is applied for protection of the reinforced steel. Active corrosion inhibitors in Sika MonoTop-610 meet international standards for corrosion protection while its excellent adhesion to concrete and steel provides high resistance to water and chloride penetration. Sika MonoTop-612 is a cementitious, polymer-modified, low permeability mortar containing silica fume and synthetic fibre reinforcement, and is used as a high strength repair and re-profiling system. Its excellent slump resistance allows for easy application on overhead and vertical surfaces.

For thick layer concrete repairs, Sika MonoTop-615 HB was used. This is a high build, cementitious, polymer-modified, one-component repair and re-profiling mortar containing silica fume and Ferrogard corrosion inhibitors. It displays excellent thixotropic behaviour. For thin layer rendering on horizontal and vertical surfaces, Sika MonoTop-620 was the product of choice. A cementitious pore sealer and levelling mortar containing silica fume, it provides excellent adhesion to mortars and concrete. All Sika MonoTop products are sprayable by the wet spray method and provide several advantages including adjustable consistencies, excellent workability characteristics and good mechanical strengths.

As with all high rise buildings undergoing external renovations in densely populated areas, public safety takes priority. Since Bencorrum Towers is situated on an extremely busy street, a mere stone’s throw from Durban’s famous beach-front, and due to its level of dilapidation, falling debris is of major concern. To exacerbate the challenges facing the contractor, the body corporate of Bencorrum Towers imposed a restricted working schedule; 09h00 to 15h00 Mondays to Fridays, with no work permitted on weekends and public holidays.

Every window in the block will be sealed with Sikaflex-11 FC, a one-part, moisture-curing elastic joint sealant and multi-purpose adhesive based on polyurethane. Its non-sag consistency greatly facilitates sealing of overhead and vertical joints. Solvent-free and odourless, Sikaflex-11 FC provides high quality adhesion, bubble-free curing, good mechanical resistance and importantly, high quality weathering and ageing resistance.

While before-and-after photographs of completed sections at Bencorrum Towers bear testimony to the quality and ease of application of these outstanding Sika products, the ensuing years will prove their durability and efficacy. When the project is completed, long suffering residents, who have endured years of mal-administration and are now personally managing their building, will once again feel proud to reside at Bencorrum Towers.

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When bigger isn’t better

stihl-T-AKKU_TSA230-I001When bigger isn’t better

The STIHL TSA 230 cordless cut-off machine is a multi-purpose, impressively powerful machine that will transform on-site working conditions. Compact and lightweight at 3.9kg (without the battery), the TSA 230 is able to slice effortlessly through roof and wall tiles, granite counter tops, bricks, pipes, paving stones and metal. Its mobility and ‘green’ features make this nifty machine a winner for any building contractor.

The TSA 230 is powered by 36-volt lithium-ion battery technology that eliminates emissions. Being cordless, the TSA 230 offers no fuel, no power point, no generator go-anywhere mobility plus easy operation. Move from job to job, to locations both inside and out without the hassle of having to set up extension cables, find power points or worry about wet weather. With the TSA 230 there’s no loss of power through having to use extra long extension lengths, and there’s no risk of burning out the motor. For added convenience and reduced downtime during recharging, it is compatible with all STIHL professional cordless model batteries.

stihl-T-AKKU_TSA230DX100_CA-D001Not only is the emission-free nature of the TSA 230 kinder on both the environment and machine operators, a significant feature is its ability to almost completely eliminate potentially harmful dust particles from the workplace, in line with stringent international health and safety requirements. Studies show that the lung disease silicosis is caused by exposure to crystalline silica, which comes from chipping, cutting, drilling or grinding soil, sand, granite, or other minerals. Occupations known to expose workers to crystalline silica include construction work, masonry, mining, steel industry work and stone cutting. The innovative TSA 230 allows for the attachment of an optional vacuum adapter or, using the standard-fitted water connection, attaching it to a hosepipe or a 10-litre pressurised water container on construction sites with no water supply. This makes it ideal for wet or dry dust suppression cutting during interior or exterior work.

In addition to its clean operation, the TSA 230 is the world’s first cordless cut-off machine with a 230mm cutting wheel, and it can cut into various materials to a depth of 70mm – far deeper than angle grinders of similar size. A depth-limiter is an optional extra. The TSA 230 is also perfect for precision-cutting tasks as the ergonomic handle allows the machine to be smoothly and accurately guided in the desired direction for an exact cutting performance.

stihl-T-AKKU_TSA230-E004High quality and durable, the TSA 230’s abrasive cutting wheels have an extended operating life no matter how tough the applications or how demanding the working environment. Plus the brushless EC motor is low-maintenance and hardy, reducing downtime for servicing and limiting service costs. With typical STIHL focus on easy to use features plus operator safety, a tool-less wheel lock prevents blade rotation when removing the wheel attachment bolt.

Powerful, practical and versatile, this professional quality power tool is a triumph of STIHL innovation and insightful engineering. It is the mobile master of any construction site.

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Lack of leadership at country level impedes roll out of Africa’s energy

Johannesburg, Tuesday, 21 February 2017

Lack of leadership at country level impedes roll out of Africa’s energy


Sean Cleary, Chairman of Strategic Concepts

The opening dialogue panel discussion at the Africa Energy Indaba in Sandton set a brisk pace as the panelists – each highly respected heavyweights in the energy arena – outlined their views on “Securing the energy future for Africa”.

The panel, comprising Dr Elham M.A. Ibrahim: Commissioner, African Union Commission; Paddy Padmanathan, President and CEO of ACWA Power; and Brian Dames CEO of African Rainbow Energy and Power (AREP) was skilfully led by moderator Sean Cleary, Chairman of Strategic Concepts.

“Although there is significant wave of success across Africa with the progressive roll-out of a broader energy mix, this is still not being done fast enough due primarily to lack of leadership at country level,” said Paddy Padmanathan.


Commissioner Dr Ibrahim

Sharing her views on securing Africa’s energy, Commissioner Ibrahim outlined the African Union Commission’s four point strategy to provide secure, affordable, reliable and clean energy for the continent in it’s 2012-2040 programme.

“In our strategy we have considered the energy mix using renewable, clean and fossil fuel resources,” said Ibrahim. “Concentration on regional requirements is a key factor, as is international cooperation and the harmonising of regulation and policies across countries.”

Brian Dames noted that Africa has the fastest growing energy market globally, and stressed that no government on its own can afford to foot the bill for energy infrastructure – and that participation by the private sector is essential.


“Securing the energy future for Africa” discussion panel at Africa Energy Indaba: Dr Elham M.A. Ibrahim: Commissioner, African Union Commission; Paddy Padmanathan, President and CEO of ACWA Power; and Brian Dames CEO of African Rainbow Energy and Power (AREP)

“We need to build Africa’s energy systems in regions and make regulatory frameworks regionally,” said Dames. “East Africa is a most profound lesson in this regard, where a high level of integration has been achieved.”

The event, which includes a comprehensive Energy Expo, was opened by Africa Energy Indaba Chair, Brian Statham, Chairman of the South African National Energy Association (SANEA)


Africa Energy Indaba Chair, Brian Statham, Chairman of the South African National Energy Association







During the rest of today and tomorrow (Wednesday 22 February) Africa Energy Indaba will continue to address burning issues around Africa’s energy needs, through a series of panel discussions which include:

– Increasing regional trade and regional integration in the energy sector
– What is the future energy mix of Africa moderator
– Public acceptance, safety and regulation in nuclear power programmes
– How to attract the funds to finance Africa’s energy sector and the role of the private sector
– Cost reflective tariffs vs state subsidies or subsidized pricing and the role of energy regulators
– Prospects for growth in the African energy sector and are a PPPs vehicle for growth potential
– The role of power pools and interconnectors and the business opportunity attached to them
– Financing financing of nuclear power projects guarantees in nuclear build programmes
– Coordination of South African players in a nuclear build programme
– Localisation and skills development in a nuclear build programme
– What is the outlook for oil and gas in Africa (including insights from the Africa gas forum)
– Energy access and energy security in Africa
– Maximising the renewable energy opportunity in Africa
– Skills development / knowledge transfer within the energy sector
– How far and fast will distributed power generation grow?
– Sustainable assets in an integrated energy future: EOH/STEAG
– The role of development funds in overcoming the challenges in the African energy sector
– Technical innovation and future disruptives
– Sustainable assets in an integrated energy future: EOH/STEAG
– The role of development funds in overcoming the challenges in the African energy sector


More follows…